Surprised no one has mentioned Smith and Wesson 627 Performance Center 8 shot in 357. (Ive been running 7 grains for handgun loads.). But I also have lever rifles in pistol calibers of 357 and 45 colt. Got a lot of positive comments on it. .357 Maximums and the 9x72R, an old German rifle cartridge. We show you how. Its a nice round and rifle. There were some factory chambered in .357 Remington Maximum over 20 guage. Can we get some more ideas? I always liked the cowboy combo concept of carbine/sidearm same caliber and own lever actions in .44 mag. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. From pressure data with this specific bullet, we knew there were no safety issues with the slightly oversize bullet as along as handloaders used Speer data for the Speer bullet. Remington and Ruger eventually . I know both of these are on the cheap side but the fun my kids and I have when we bring this to the range is priceless. The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. Count yourself lucky They are getting to very hard to find! Make sure to watch till the end. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. The three taped holes were 20.0 gr. This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. In a rifle, this cartridge is easy on the shoulder, making it a natural for new shooters. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE for sale $2.92. . | Hodgdon starting load for the 140 gr. Second, they take ordinary .357 ammo and produce ballistics youd hardly believe. Just ask! has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post In a handgun .357 is the upper level of my comfort zone. Those Remlins had some serious issues, and are the least desirable models of all Marlin 94s. I have the Winchester 1892 pictured above. That 2000 fps 357 mag load is 1100 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. A friend has suggested my neophyte inquiry might find assistance here: C2N14 because life is not energetic enough. Actually prefer 30-30 to any handgun round. Everybody wanted to get their hands on my lever-action .30-30, and nobody who shot it was disappointed. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm, Post (Ret.) Oh. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:44 pm, Post Accurate Arms, Hercules, Hodgdon, Hornady, IMR, Lyman, Nosler, RCBS, Sierra and Speer. .357 Maximum | The Firearms Forum Yeah, that .357 lever gun is so irrelevant you cant find one anywhere. Of course, I dont carry it on a single point like the muh AR crowd does. Speaking of bullets, the .357 is one of the best cast-bullet rounds ever, so add a lead pot, a mould, and a pan of lube to the kit. Then there is the 40-90 Sharps straight 3 1/4" that can be formed from Bell .405 basic cases. Christmas is coming. get the Lee hand press. Winchester 1892 Deluxe 357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifle with 24 Inch Octagon Barrel. If you want a lever gun for your wall and occasional shooting, good luck doing better. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 pm, Post Slower burning powders will enjoy a longer barrel more than faster burning powders. Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. Not even a Rossi(saw a trick shot dude on a video whos main gun was a Rossi). Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. My standard rule for maximum pressure that I have gone by for over 35 years is to take pressures to the point where a slight crater (ridge) begins to appear around the firing pin indent, then back off to just below that point. .357 velocities peak in a 16 barrel and decrease thereafter. 1,535 max: Lil'Gun: 17.0 gr. It's failure as a commercial load does not reflect poorly on it's performance, as it has become increasingly popular for handgun hunters and silhouette shooters alike. They can. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. Both are top performers. plus i have very bad eyes, and kinda need a scope or a red dot to shoot in a relaxed fashion. Thats what makes them lever action great. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Seldom has any new gun/ new cartridge combination failed so quickly.Ruger's long-framed Blackhawk was first to market in two barrel lengths. If the .35 Rem is legal where you're at, and you're wanting to build a bolt-action, I would probably go that route, as brass and ammo is much easier found than .357 Maximum brass and load data. Which was ".357 maximum Auto Rimless." The moniker ".357 Max AR" stuck with the round for 3 reasons, 1) it was a 5.56 case expanded to straightwall, maximizing its capacity, 2) it uses load data very similar to the 357 Maximum rimmed revolver cartridge, and 3) the "Max-AR," Auto Rimless, was really only meant for use in AR-15's . I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. Bottom line, if you get a Marlin lever gun that works and shoots good, and without a crossbolt safety, dont EVER sell it. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. I wonder how the rimless version of the .357 Maximumthe .350 Legendwill fare. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. Note the 1/4" groups with .358" bullets in their .358" cylindrical throat and only slightly larger groups with .357" bullets, Copyright 2023 .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA, New Custom Made Barrels by Match Grade Machine. With a tuned lever action, you can unload 10 rounds in about 3 seconds: https://youtu.be/h1Wcy8HRQUo?list=TLPQMjcwNzIwMjC2VftOeStKpQ. At least you should expect the kind of quality youd get from a Remington bolt gun in the price range. I am sure I am not the only one that is open to it but finds that it is not possible right now. Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. That never happened with Ruger. Yeah both pretty awesome. T/Cs Contender pistol was also a natural for this cartridge, and it was a popular chambering. His just naturally pointed well, I didnt have to work at all. hollow points, you can aim dead on with it at 100 yds. I think my Henry BB 45 Colt is my fav. Ive never understood the fascination with Black Rifles. If you want to shoot .357 Magnum and .38 Special ammo, just long throat the factory chamber! Notify Me When Available. And, re getting it looked at, yes; thing is, there arent too many smiths in my area who are comfortable working on lever-actions (and the ones that are, I dont trust). Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. Loading your own was a matter of economic necessity for most of us, and wildcatting was very common. Such a longer cartridge is a pipe dream until someone steps up and makes a longer revolver cylinder. 357 Remington Maximum Additional Loads Below are the all of the bullet and load recipes followed by the groups shot at distance with our 21 357 Max 1:20 Encore barrel. But do you know how to properly use them? Build a Ruger#1. Brand: Winchester Firearms. Dan Wesson guns had easily-replaceable barrels and came with an extra in .357 Maximum. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. THE IDEAL TRAINING PLATFORM FOR KIDS. Similar to the Critter You Are Hunting Effect. About the only .357 or .38 spl ammo available now is the pricey 30-bucks-for-a-box-of-20 defensive loads. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 pm, Post by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:32 pm, Post Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. I have a 94 Trapper in 357 Magnum that I rechambered to 357 Maximum. But they do fit nicely behind a seat. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. Getting old aint easy. The most Fun guns I own. The werent lever actions. I told them if they were so worried about reloading they can have my brass. Note: A complete article about the .357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge . 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. 4" Barrel. Is 357 maximum as good as I've read? | Shooters' Forum But WHATEVER YOU DO, dont use FMJ for self defense. .357 Maximum when loaded down in a rifle length barrel is almost like shooting an air rifle. If you get one and a couple of SAA revolvers, youre almost ready for cowboy action shooting. Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. TX residents add 8.25% sales tax. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. Ammo Boxes and Storage Containers for Sale | Midsouth Shooters Great guns..would love to have a Winchester big loop trapper in 357..but i wish the Winchester came with sling studs like the Marlin. Save your brass and reload. So its a one-two-three punch. Until February of 2020 a person could get a lot of different cheap ( relatively) 38 Special and 357 target ammo. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thompson center contender barrel, 357 max, 21" blued at the best online prices at eBay! Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA - Other Rifles at GunBroker.com This is a high-class place so act respectable. I have become a fan. It can shoot 38 special 357 magnum and 357 maximum. by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:55 am, Post What would be the right bullet? The unnecessary cross bolt safety can easily be deleted with a Beartooth Mercantile safety delete kit for $35.00. bullets in barrels around 20. You would be hard pressed to find an all around cartridge as good as the .357. They only made these two years. This load generates very close to the SAAMI max of 35k psi. .357 Magnum Rifle (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 102 loads. If you have some, enjoy them. It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. If you can't locate a H&R/NEF in 357 mag a very decent alternative is a Braztech/Rossi made scaled down clone. I've searched the internet without finding definitive answers. OM56, cant disagree. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. The first loads I worked up were with Speers 0.358-inch 180-grain FNSP intended for the .35 Remington. The .357 Maximum is a "stretched" .357 Magnum case; it's about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. We call all major brands, calibers, and gauges of ammunition for your firearms. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on July 21, 2015: I had the opportunity to fire a colleague's .357 Max "Contender" and he worked with my .41 Magnum. The .357 Maximum: Too Hot to Handle - An Official Journal Of The NRA of rifles attached to horn or pommel and carried in a shuck of some sort. Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 . 357 Maximum Brass - Small Rifle - Brass Cases - Starline Brass The powerful Ruger 77/357 is chambered in .357 Mag. The 92 is a round-barrel model, with the metal bits in blued steel and the furniture in black walnut. The 30A is a Marlin 336 for 70% off.). Henry is close with SPX but went plastic stock.DOH! Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Nosler JFP, LSWC, Sierra JHC, Nosler Part. The .357 Remington Maximum is the .357 Magnum revolver round lengthened .315 inch, and was basically developed by the hyper-competitive Elgin Gates, who among other things raced powerboats and obsessively hunted trophy-book big game around the world. Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. Somewhere around 7,500 guns were made. In bolt action or semi auto, I would choose the 350. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. Mine was made in about 2005, for what its worth. Im a wee bit envious. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. There'll be no market for it. Thats exactly the sort of info i was looking for. You can even shoot .38 Special for some of the easiest long gun plinking youll ever do. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. With nice wood Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. Meet The 5 Best .357 and .38 Caliber Guns On Planet Earth Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. Discuss. Lever action rifles are fun. by groschen1936 Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am, Post .357 Mag ammo from brands like Hornady, Federal, and CCI. Its not as slick as the old 19, but it will do the job. Many shooters used their long-barreled .357 Magnum revolvers but usually longed for a bit more velocity to go with those heavy bullets. Factory .357 Maximum ammo is no longer sold by the big manufacturers, but the folks at Starline offer new brass cases for reloaders. The other was H-110 powder which never achieved what I thought was accurate. The 357 Magnum is a highly regarded round for hunting and self-defense. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. Its cheaper than a lot of other calibers to shoot with minimal felt recoil. IHMSA is still active but nowhere near as popular as it was back then. MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. Velocities can exceed 2,000 fps in a 14-inch barrel, and that could make a hollowpoint bullet intended for .357 Magnum velocities behave like a varmint bullet. https://www.rincolnia.com/images/Public/38SPL_SUPP.mp4. Comments like yours on why dont you just reload are what limits some of my shooting time on the metallic silhouette range as its full of old vietnam era (and older) shooters that whine more than a Karen in the wild if you dont pick up your brass with intent to reload. First off, a .357 lever is almost as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. Show Only Non-Guns. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. Backorder OK. Slip Top 50 Smoke Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. 350 Ledgend vs 357 Rem Max | Bloodydecks Latest posts Offshore They're here!!! It brings the 38+p up to mid-range 357 revolver ballistics (~1250). 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. lever gun that I own and have ever shot, easy on the arms and has some versatility. by Chris83716 Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 pm, Post 357 Maximum, Everything You Need to Know! MGM Barrels TC - YouTube The revolvers that were built in this caliber are rare, and consistently go for a premium over other Ruger Blackhawks. Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. The Henry Big Boy Steel in .357 is about $700. For me, a Max levergun would only be desirable if it would cycle Mags and possibly Specials as well. Springfield Armory SA-35 Pistol: Rebirth of the Browning P-35 Hi-Power. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. But after losing popularity due to gas cutting issues, this chambering was eventually dropped by all manufacturers. I still have a safe full of ARs, but thinking this Marlin is going to be seeing a lot more range time than they will. Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off, Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off. Loads for .357 Maximum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.)
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